July 7th, 2025

Two Pandemics, Compared: Reflections on HIV and COVID-19

“Dr. Sax, what’s it like to have lived through two pandemics as an ID doctor?”

The question came from a brand-new intern during afternoon sign-out. I took a breath — because wow, were they different.

HIV: It Felt Like A Calling, One Miraculously Rewarded

I started my internship in 1987, six years after the first cases of AIDS were reported. The median survival of someone newly diagnosed with AIDS was 12−18 months. When, at the end of my three-year residency, I chose Infectious Diseases as a specialty, part of the rationale was to follow what felt like an urgent mandate:  HIV was about to become the leading cause of death among young men in the United States.

(I also liked antibiotics, microbiology, and taking patient histories about travel and pets. You know, the nerdy ID stuff.)

This catastrophic new disease taking the lives of young people in our country didn’t just present a medical challenge. The stigma was brutal. Many clinicians reinforced it by asking how someone acquired the virus, even when the information was in the chart or had no impact on treatment. “How many partners?” “IV drugs?” “Why didn’t you use condoms? I sure hope you do now.” Patients loathed the inquisition and the implied accusations; most of them already felt deeply stigmatized by their diagnosis.

One gastroenterologist, after doing an endoscopy, memorably told a 28-year-old patient of mine with candida esophagitis, “You don’t look like someone who has AIDS. How did you get it?” She remembers that 30 years later, and so do I.

It’s hard to convey just how ubiquitous, and punishing, this stigma was back then. “We can’t have those people taking up an ICU bed,” a cardiologist grumbled to me in 1990. Those people. Some surgeons looked for any excuse to avoid operating on a patient with HIV. Hospitals deliberately downplayed HIV as an area of expertise, not wanting to be branded an “AIDS hospital.”

I’m embarrassed to write that even some ID doctors followed this unfortunate plot line, expressing concern that HIV might ruin our specialty. Why take care of someone with advanced HIV disease when there was nothing that you could do to treat the underlying problem, the virus itself? Send them back to their primary providers for palliative care once you’ve treated the toxoplasmosis or pneumocystis, they argued. Small in number (fortunately), this group of ID doctors did not distinguish themselves during this period.

Because they were wrong. There was plenty we could do, and it wasn’t just diagnosing, treating, and preventing the opportunistic infections. We could also help alleviate chronic symptoms, manage polypharmacy, provide a longitudinal, compassionate care team, and — this part was critical — we could follow closely the research on antiretroviral therapy gathering steam in the laboratories and clinical trials.

When successful HIV treatment arrived in 1996, we could then celebrate with our patients the transformation of their previously fatal disease into something quite treatable. Rejoice!

Today, remarkably, HIV is easier to manage than many chronic conditions. In a quiet signal of triumph over the inevitable downward course of untreated HIV, residents who admit someone with stable HIV to the hospital — usually for a completely unrelated reason — list HIV way down on the patient’s problem list, something in the background that deserves mention but is rock-solid stable.

COVID-19:  A 2-Year Siege That Drained and Divided Us

March 2020 reversed that script. Critically, this time, we ID folks weren’t alone; the whole medical center mobilized.

Energy to respond clinically was both collaborative and, at least initially, sustaining. In those first months, we worked together with critical care specialists, emergency room personnel, the microbiology lab, nursing, respiratory therapists — everyone on the front lines of patient care chipped in to get it right.

Another big difference was that, due to the mode of transmission, the fear was everywhere: every PPE donning felt like bomb-squad duty. Is it weak of me to admit that each time I entered the room of a suffering, coughing patient with COVID-19 in the spring of 2020 that my heart rate quickened? That I repeatedly checked my N-95 mask for the proper seal? Cursed with a giant nose, I had always considered this feature of my anatomy a cosmetic challenge, not a life-or-death issue — but it sure made fitting an N-95 mask difficult.

(Too much information? Sorry.)

I remember a woman from the Dominican Republic, struggling with COVID, telling me — through an iPad interpreter — that she drew strength from memories of going to church as a child. Her faith, she said, was helping her fight the virus. I listened, nodding, but from the far side of the room. The connection felt intimate; my posture and location, not so much.

Hallways were eerie and quiet — administrators were remote, many non-essential clinicians sidelined and doing only video visits, all elective surgery canceled, and family and friends of patients barred from visiting their sick loved ones. That last one was particularly heartbreaking. What a terrible time.

Then, the summer of 2020 in northern cities like Boston teased us with a very welcome pause, as COVID practically disappeared. Phew, time for a deep breath, everyone. I remember postulating hopefully, wishfully, to a close friend that perhaps the virus had already targeted the vulnerable, either from immunologic or genetic factors still to be determined; maybe it was done wreaking havoc on society at large.

I was so very wrong. The next 18 months brought us an autumn/winter surge almost as bad as the first one. Delta the following summer filled ICUs with the unvaccinated; Omicron then infected everyone else within weeks, making the Christmas holidays in 2021 a blur.

We in ID watched each of these waves unfold, following the scientific advances closely, and doing our best to communicate this knowledge to our patients and an increasingly weary public who just wanted this virus gone. Monoclonal antibody treatments came and went as the variants mutated — each antibody challenging to obtain with limited supply, and as difficult to deploy as they were to pronounce.

(It will be quite the trivia question one day to ask ID doctors to say, or spell, bamlanivimab, casirivimab, and imdevimab.)

Alas, our hard work put us in growing conflict with a world ready to move on. Anytime we modified our guidance due to evolving evidence as the disease changed, our words were seized as a signal we weren’t to be trusted. Ivermectin enthusiasm and anti-vaccine rhetoric spiraled into mass delusion. Two extremist camps battled it out in the press and social media — the group that insisted the whole thing was a fraud from the start versus those who refused to acknowledge that the disease had lessened in severity over time.

We knew that the truth lay somewhere between these two groups — yes, COVID was still with us, causing some unfortunate people to become severely ill or leading to long COVID, but no, it was nowhere near the threat it was in the first 2 years. Somehow, conveying this message led to increasingly cantankerous pushback from both camps.

What began with a collaborative spirit to fight a global pandemic evolved into a political fracture that still hasn’t healed. It was the toughest 2 years of my career, and I’m still not over it.

Some Lessons Learned

Back to that intern’s excellent question, because in our workroom, I probably didn’t give it sufficient thought when I answered, motivating this post.

Yes, they were different. There’s no better example of how different than to look at what happened to Dr. Anthony (Tony) Fauci. Celebrated for leading the response to HIV, pilloried for the same leading role with COVID, he eventually needed a security service to protect himself and his family — one of the saddest commentaries on our divided world one could imagine.

But both viruses exposed societal ignorance and healthcare inequities. The best responses involved teamwork, compassion, rigorous evaluation of the latest research, and nuanced communication.

And both reinforced the fact that our work is never boring, that’s for sure. ID is still the best job in medicine, even when it breaks your heart.

17 Responses to “Two Pandemics, Compared: Reflections on HIV and COVID-19”

  1. Gordon Huth says:

    Your statement re: COVID. “It was the toughest 2 years of my career, and I’m still not over it.”

    Feeling thankful for your resilience and that you are still teaching, writing and showing the way to the current and new generations of clinicians.

  2. Sarah ID Doc says:

    “It was the toughest 2 years of my career, and I’m still not over it.”

    This part got me. I’m not over it either.

  3. Ruth says:

    I have only worked through one pandemic so far but it was so bad that it made me want to quit living. Antidepressants, a good therapist, and a 2-month sabbatical helped a lot. Now I include questions about resilience and how to cope in all my lectures to internal medicine residents so some good has come of it. I also no longer argue with crazy people but layout options and abide by their wishes. Thanks Dr Sax

  4. RPW says:

    “ID is still the best job in medicine, even when it breaks your heart.”
    Amen!

  5. Loretta S says:

    I just finished reading The Great Influenza, by John M. Barry. One of the things I loved about the book is the way in which Barry makes clear that the political environment of the time influenced the response to, and even the acknowledgment of, the pandemic. I look forward to the day when I can read a book about the history of the COVID pandemic that takes a similar wide angle view. Unfortunately, I think such a book written today would be entangled in the still-ongoing “debates”, for lack of a better word.

  6. PSS says:

    The two extreme camps on the covid issue continue to frustrate me. Anyone who did any sort of patient care in 2020 knows it was horrible (and not made up!), and the same goes for how different things are today. Haven’t seen a case of severe covid pneumonia in ages, hope it stays that way!

  7. Ian Maxtone-Graham says:

    Wise and sad words, beautifully expressed, as always. I am a non-doctor who always looks forward to this column arriving in my in-box.

  8. Grace Farris says:

    Great piece Paul! Earlier this year when the TV show The Pitt got popular people started asking me questions about 2020 era COVID I felt very wary. I tried to watch The Pitt and only made it through a few minutes. No thanks, do not want to revisit! But I still agree with “ID is still the best job in medicine, even when it breaks your heart.” (swap in hospital medicine though!)

  9. Keith Holden says:

    Thanks for your great writing. And your dedication to patient well-being, dignity, and respect inspires and challenges your fellow physicians to elevate their practice to this exceptional standard.

  10. Raul Davaro says:

    Dear Paul: we are contemporaries, I went thru both pandemics with the same experiences and feelings. The great difference is that during COVID 19 I knew that I could get COVID 19 and be on a respirator like many of my patients, or worse my family members could get the infection from me, and end up dying. That was a terrifying experience, and I have no getting over it yet. .

  11. Ian Maxtone-Graham says:

    I loved that one. It was a great tribute to a mentor. Had no idea he was Conan’s father till the end.

  12. Abigail Zuger says:

    Nice, Paul.
    And now I toot my own horn: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2783500

    • Paul Sax says:

      What a great piece, Abby! Love this sentence:

      Patients in the United States have long been forced to fend for themselves in an increasingly brutal medical marketplace, weighing hospitals, doctors, and insurers exactly as they might poke avocados or test-drive SUVs.

      -Paul

  13. David West says:

    The politicization, misinformation, and widespread ignorance in the population are responsible for many of the deaths attributed to COVID-19. Even today, the ignorance of the anti-vax crowd is stunning.

    As a data scientist, I was one of the guys producing SEIR models based on limited data for a number of county-level governments. Our models showed what WOULD happen IF actions were not taken. Actions were taken and the horrors predicted were never fully realized. Still, ignoramuses try to tell us “your models were wrong”. No, they weren’t. It was our actions that gave us a brighter future. These were the actions prescribed by the CDC, Dr. Fauci, and myriad ID specialists and epidemiologists. Well done!

    I’ve been fortunate to have avoided any known infection by COVID. I was vaccinated as soon as I was able and have had a total of four shots with ever increasing adverse reactions. I’m not getting another shot due to my reactions, but I shudder to think how my body would have responded to an actual infection.

  14. Pedro Campana says:

    The HIV pandemic carried a label imposed by society. It was far more cruel, as it clearly showed that some lives were considered more valuable than others. COVID-19, on the other hand, was universal.
    It is symptomatic that most replies don’t even mention the HIV pandemic, which is still ongoing—primarily due to a persistent lack of human rights.

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